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The Sports Courier’s Fred Richani interviews rapper Saigon about starring in VH1’s Love & Hip-Hop, possibly appearing in HBO’s Entourage movie, the state of rap, what mixtape he’s most proud of, and much more! Saigon Interview Time Codes

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Sports quer. I have right here via Skype the yard father himself Saigon. You may know him from Love & Hip Hop his great mixtapes. His great albums Entourage Entourage, the movie coming soon? Yeah, man, what’s going on. All right. What’s up man, what’s going on now you met you said Entourage movie. I was going to ask you that later, but I guess since you brought it up. Are you in the Entourage movie coming out gotta wait and see bro, that’s the point of being in a movie. You can’t give away all the surprises and all that. I don’t know. You got to ask Doug Ellin tweet Doug Ellin at Doug Ellin at Mr.

Doug Ellin and say saon in the onage movie true that now do you still keep in touch with Turtle. Yeah, that’s my brother, man. If you go on my Ig. They got this pictures with turtle with my daughter. I don’t like a lot of my daughter’s two years old. I don’t let a lot of men hold my daughter, but he’s one of the few men in the world that could hold my two-year-old daughter. Very cool. Very cool. I thought it’s like my brother his mom and everybody is cool people. We’re like brothers in real life. So now they didn’t kill you off from ontourage, but I thought they wrote you off a little too soon.

Don’t you think well, you know what honestly, they did. They wrote they I stayed longer than I was supposed to because I was only supposed to have one scene turned to two scenes turn to two seasons and three seasons. So, they actually I stayed longer than I was supposed to stay. Okay. Now I was doing some research online about your next album there’s a lot of conflicting release dates. So, I’ll ask you up front right here when is your next album dropping and is it technically The Greatest Story Never Told part three. Well, it’s called the trouble times of Brian Kinard. That’s what is my name.

It’s coming out through squid Inc Squad cpxi, you know, I got I just did like a deal bigger than Atlantic. I did a deal bigger than my Atlantic deal. You know, because when you team up with the right people for the same thing it makes a lot of sense. So yeah. It’s great story never told chapter 3 just blaze is still on. But we bought DJ premiere on now. So, now we got premere we got just blaze it’s by far my best album. But yeah, it’s gsnt great story chapter 3, but just like bread and circuses has it has a you know, a subtitle this one is the subtitle was the trouble times Brian cavard and you could catch me on Oprah.

I’m about to do Oprah. Oh, nice. Definitely looking forward to that now loveing Hip Hop didn’t help out. I need a stronger and how’s your life changed since getting involved with the Love & Hip Hop. I can’t walk down the street without people feel like they should have an opinion about who I am as a man. They be like, how can you talk to your baby mother like that. Like what like it’s how we talk to each other, but you know, it, man. It’s all something that I needed to do for the time of my career because like I said, I always preach reality in my music.

So to do a reality show kind of makes sense to me because I my story is my life, you know what I’m saying? My whole when I Rap I started rapping in jail about eating eating beans out of a can. So from the beginning. It was true story it was a reality now. They gave me a chance to put on VH1. So, I’ll take it and they give me huge checks. So, hey makes sense to me. You can’t complain now you are starring VH1, of course, you starring HBO’s Entourage, but and Haro Haro, too, opra. Yep, but do you still feel underrated not as a overall celebrity.

But as a artist yourself because absolutely man. Absolutely because you know, why it’s because the content of your music to the public your content is more important than your talent people rather hear about champagne and naked women more so than you know anything else. So, anybody could Hip Hop is a free fall right now. So, they don’t have Rock Kims anymore. We don’t have Big Daddy Kane slick rexs where we do have a we there’s one like a guy like Kendrick Lamar pop up or a guy like Drake who does have that same those same lyrical abilities. But then you have a thousand guys with no talent and but they could still be on the charge they could still be in the Forefront of the media because, you know, it’s monkey see monkey do and they’re all falling into the same format of instead of being Innovative and creative is about copycat and copy what this guy did because he might have made up.

It’s like you ever seen Coming to America. Yeah, remember when the guy made mcdows and he’s like, they got the Big Mac. We got the big Mick. They got the golden AR? Yeah, a lot of that happening in the music business right now? Yeah. Yeah. I feel and as far as the overall state of Hip Hop Is it better or worse. You think in the last 10 years. I think it’s a lot worse. I think it’s wor totally. It’s a lot worse really even like 10 years ago like them franchise boys and the snap and you know, all that stuff. No. We still got that now don’t forget we still got the chief kefs and the little reefs and the monkey M they pop up, but those are microwave guys the thing about well, 10 years.

Yeah, 10 years might have been the same thing, but when you go back 20 years. Then you might have to go back 25. Remember when Queen Latifah was making song You and it y you y Who you calling a bitc that was like empowering for young black women for young black men because it’s like Dam. I can’t call her a cuz Queen Latifah made that song, but now it’s like I’m a bad. I’m a so when women are calling theirself. It’s hard not to call them, you know what I’m saying? Yeah, now I thought New York Rap, you know about about a decade ago a little over a decade ago kind of had a Renaissance at least you on the mixtape scene.

I mean you had yourself coming up. You had guys like papat J Mills Joel Ortiz you a number of other guys, you know, Sirius Jones beat, you know, Jen in that epic. You know, epic battle Rap and I felt like, you know, the music industry, you know, really had a chance to capitalize on that hot period in New York Rap and at least on a major level. I felt like they never did do you feel like that was a missed opportunity. Looking back, nah, n. We just got caught up in a bad time, we got caught up in the southern Movement Like and then especially cuz guys from New York started really saying.

You know what we going to go south cuz they were greedy. They were just looking for money. They weren’t caring about the culture of the music. So, they were more caring about let me expand my brand down to the South. So I could go down here and make money and do this because it came all about money once it became all about money like anything else once it’s all about about the money especially a art form once it once art becomes about money then you’re going to lose the value of the real art the Artistry. It’s almost like most artists van go from Basia to most big artists, they wasn’t thinking I can sell this painting for $4 million one day they were just making M making art from their their heart and their soul.

It wasn’t about what is this going to sell for then once it became about what’s some how muchoney am. I going to make off this art it became about like I said corporate and corporate is selling Mercedes selling Louis Vuitton selling this Louis bag and this let me champagne and this A rock or whatever, that’s all corporate Rap Rap now is Corporate Rap. Yeah, unfortunately a lot of it definitely is now. I know you it 90% a lot of it all almost all of it now. I know You’ say that you’re still the best rapper in the game and especially in the New York are area, but is there any ever.

But is there anybody right now coming up that you see us talking about in two to 5 years kind of like maybe a young Saigon a young Papoose. Yeah, Bishop Nehru. We gota look him up on that piff this kid Nam Bishop Nehru. He’s a all he’s a super talent and he’s from my neck of the woods where I grew up. So I like him a lot you could check him anywhere the kid is he got a he got a album coming out with u MF Doom real dope man, kid named Bishop n check him out, man. Bishop MF Doom anything MF Doom is pretty dope.

So, yeah. Yeah. Bishop nru Bishop Nehru. He’s a he’s one of those kids you gota watch he’s like he’s he just turned 17 he just had a 17th birthday and he’s flaming right now. Very cool. Now I had a couple people sending a few fan questions and the one I got most was actually what mixtape are you most proud of I’m assuming. It’s all in a day work since you recorded that in 24 hours. That was more of an album than a mix day. But what would it be that was good. That was just a Vibe me static selector court, but my most proud one is warning shots the first warning shots classic warning shots was something where I was like, you know what?

I’m going this is my opportunity to, you know, display my it was like my demo, you know, when you make your demo that you going to shop to the labels War shots was my you know, Collective group of songs that I felt like this is going to whoever’s going to hear me. This is how I want to represent myself and I think I had come get Favorite Things shock TV a lot of my best songs was on one shot. Very cool. Now, before we let you go, my man, where can fans find you online and where can they find you on TV. I know you got a you’re going to be appearing on Love & Hip Hop tonight?

Do you, man. Love and& Hip Hop tonight tonight was a Saigon moment tonight, you’re gonna see a Saigon moment like there’s a lot Saigon and Brian carard there two different people. But yeah, the trouble times of Brian carard tonight on Love Hip. Hop is a Saigon moment, I’m definitely going to be the trending topic of the world. And I’m like Ral cramden. I’m like, black Ral cramden be like Alice one of these days Alice. Yeah, you know, but people don’t understand entertainment. So, I understand it. So got to make it entertaining when we talk about real things. And yeah, check me out on Instagram Saigon NC on Twitter the real Saigon and check look out for the Entourage movie.

So like I said, you know. So you’re teasing us now you’re not saying you’re there for sure. You want us to watch. I said, look out for the Entourage, those are my brothers. I said, so, if I’m on it. If I’m not on it up to you, but I do prefer you go, check it out. Definitely definitely and real quick. Before we let you go, too any upcoming appearances or concerts you’re involved in no, I just start I’m just starting a new business. So right now, I’m in the office every day trying to get the team geared up and trying to make because you know, I’m going I did everything.

I could do in music even to me. I never I came in different. So, but now I’m in a situation where I’m like more of a mogul. I still got I got this album coming out I’m probably going to do another album then I’m going to, you know, go look for the next best thing the next little s giddy who believes in himself. Very cool. Very cool saon, man. Thanks so much for the time. Thank.


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